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PCLinuxOS 2007

Posted in Distributions by downforce on May 31, 2007

I recently stuck PCLinuxOS 2007 on a 3rd partition on my system, mainly as a test for my fubar’ed video card.

First impression: I really like it.

I never felt comfortable with Kubuntu’s KDE, it installed SOO much crap and you can’t uninstall it because of the kubuntu-desktop meta -package and it tries to uninstall the whole of kubuntu-desktop if you remove some component. PCLinuxOS you can uninstall components that you want with no ill-effect (that I’ve found so far!). Like why do I want Synaptic Touchpad on a desktop PC?

PCLOS07 has inspired me to give KDE a real go, where Kubuntu made me favour GNOME.

Other features I do like is the apt-get/synaptic based on their rpm repo’s. That’s a nice touch as I didn’t like adept and synaptic is good.

I also decided to PCLinuxOS on my laptop and configuration for the wireless was sooo painless. It autodetected the ip2200 wireless card and configuration of WPA2-PSK was so smooth. Huge kudos for that! It was a nightmare under both Elive and Debian. Didn’t try under *buntu.

I haven’t been able to give it a good run, due to the video card, but love to test out pushing it in terms of gaming and memory/cpu usage.

I really like that Yamatku (sp?) console… the dropdown is nice, use it all the time now. I find it better than alt-tabbing between a konsole window. For some reason I don’t really like konsole as a terminal app. Gnomes gnome-terminal is better featured. I really want to terminal client to work like puTTy where selecting auto-copies into system clipboard, not the screens clipboard. Unfortuately konsole doesn’t even auto-copy into konsole's clipboard and there is no keyboard shortcut 😦

Not everything is perfect though. Some of the things I don’t like are:
* The menu structure – God damn what’s with the 19 million sub-menus that have 1 item? Took me a cpl minutes to find Synaptic (I deleted it off the taskbar .. waste of space!)
* The default bash config (.bashrc etc) is pretty basic. I ended up taking some items from the Ubuntu install.

The installer needs a bit of work. For the most part it’s fairly painless and asks some basic questions to get you up and running, however:
* Cancel isn’t obvious – there is an OK button but to cancel you have to use the X, not so intuiative.
* The partitioning/format feature – I accidentally wiped my /home drive. It was my fault really, I forgot I moved data around, getting rid of some NTFS partitions in favour of one big ext3. I would prefer it to be more like GParted where you make all the changes then apply at the end rather than make each change live as you choose it. Luckily the only thing I lost was my settings. It wasn’t a huge deal except loosing .firefox and .opera which had my bookmarks, oh and a couple of custom scripts. Everything else is on my fileserver, mounted with samba on start to subdirectories with a root directory I call /data.

That does remind me to include in my backup scripts a remote backup of my /home/.* directory & file to the file server too!

So far not overly impressed with the repo’s like Ubuntu/Debian … but for general desktop use I’d imagine it’s more than adequate, but finding some less popular or specific applications weren’t there, mainly for development/server features. I tried looking for k3d, an app I tried out for an hour the other day for 3D modelling and that wasn’t there either.

Which leads me to say, it’s most definitely not for a server environment or really a development environment. It does have apache2/mysql/postgres/php5 but no sign of lighttpd which I like to use for localhost testing as it’s nice and light and quick. I couldn’t find eclipse which I’ve just discovered as a pretty decent IDE. I haven’t really taken this part past installing the LAMP components. Nothing is configured and TBH I didn’t even see if http://localhost worked.

I didn’t test any multimedia functionality as I haven’t got the sound working yet. Also I use my MythTV frontend for all videos/DVD’s.

I have 2 sound card, on-board and PCI and it defaulted to the on-board. I havent’ looked into changing it around, but when I did I somehow killed the sound server and get an error on boot up.

Well that’s my recap of PCLinuxOS after 2.5 days.

I seem to have listed more complaints than good features, but it’s more that what it does it does very well and there isn’t much to say. It’s quick and easy to figure out. The control center is a nice feature for system administration and anyone who can use Control Panel in Windows can use the Control Center in PCLinuxOS.

I’d dare to say that PCLinuxOS is more user friendly than Ubuntu and would make a better transition distro for a Microsoft user, well once they sort the partitioner out anyway!

As I said earlier, it’s good enough for me to want to continue using it … I’ll keep you posted if I change my mind!

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  1. Michal said, on May 31, 2007 at 19:15

    First installed Kubuntu and have this odd feeling.
    then installed Mepis and it is good!
    then installed PCLOS 2007 too and it works well 🙂
    then installed Debian’s Lenny and it work fine 😉

    PCLinuxOS for my kids and Debian for me. It has slighty more packages and slightly more stable with my old pc.

    So there you have it. 🙂

  2. puuque said, on May 31, 2007 at 22:03

    “I never felt comfortable with Kubuntu’s KDE, it installed SOO much crap and you can’t uninstall it because of the kubuntu-desktop meta -package and it tries to uninstall the whole of kubuntu-desktop if you remove some component.”

    Actually, the KDE in Ubuntu is highly customizable (GNOME too). Of course you have to remove the kubuntu-desktop package first. If it does uninstall the whole KDE it’s not really that bad. You wanted a slim KDE, right? (Get another window manager, like FVWM-Crystal, just in case something goes wrong) You can then install the KDE components you like through Synaptic. I guess kdebase, -core and -libs etc. are a must. Want only JuK, KOrganizer and KPoker without their corresponding packages? Just select them in Synaptic and says which other KDE-components it needs. You can always install more if you need. But it takes much longer than just to select the kubuntu-desktop-package and you have to know which programs you want. Anyway, you can then remove every program if you don’t like it without breaking anything.

  3. Kelhim said, on May 31, 2007 at 22:18

    Afaik, kubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package – removing it does not effect KDE or other programs. However, this is the case with Ubuntu and its ubuntu-desktop meta-package and Kubuntu should be no exception?

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  5. downforce said, on June 1, 2007 at 09:59

    puuque, yeah I know that. I guess I was coming from a point of view of a desktop distro. I couldn’t for the life of my find “Theme Manager” for KDE in Kubuntu anywhere. It comes as part of a standard KDE install and PCLOS has it.

    TBH my favourite window manager is Enlightenment E17, but the elbuntu packages just aren’t stable enough yet. Elive is great and use that on my laptop, but even then, it still does some odd stuff. CVS can be great one week and crash the next, but that’s the same with any bleeding edge updates. All of which is frustrating for a usable desktop environment, especially when I need to get a high WAF (wife acceptance factor).

    I’ve installed KDE from a debain netinstall and so far, that’s been my favourable method, although the PCLOS install is pretty slick too.

    Kelhim, last time I tried it, which granted was in 6.06, it tried to uninstall all the associated packages with it, some 250-odd which saved 1.4GB! Maybe 7.04 doesn’t do that now. I’ll give it a try though, thanks.

  6. blah said, on October 27, 2010 at 21:54

    “I really want to terminal client to work like puTTy where selecting auto-copies into system clipboard, not the screens clipboard.”

    Just select any text in Konsole then you use the middle mouse button to paste it to any other screen. Same as putty, just uses the middle button to paste instead of the right one.


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